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Lynn Idris and R ([personal profile] link_to_revival) wrote in [community profile] srwug_alpha_rp2013-07-13 11:17 am
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Sixth Resurrection

 [It's maintenance time for the VeHA, Lynn and R being as much a team with this as they are when actually piloting.  The AI moves and shifts the machine's frame to let Lynn better reach trouble spots, and all the while they've been holding a rather pleasant conversation.  Well... until-]



You know... I never realized it before now, but R... you're a Retroactive Existence, yes?



What of it?



Well, the point of the idea of those is to make them have an identity, personality, even memories all preset even before they're made!  But you've never said much about your own identity.  You got angry when that one goddess called you a "hag" though... were you meant to be a super-macho man then or-

[There's a very loud creaking as the VeHA turns to face Lynn... and even without facial features the woman's struck silent by the animosity radiating from it.]



I'm not going to talk about this.  Not with you or anyone else.



R-R... I-

[Yeah, Lynn's realizing she's struck a nerve here.]



Regardless of my intended being, that is not who I am now, so what does it matter?  I am what I choose to be, nothing more or less, and I have no lost love for Hans Wagner and his insane obsession with working to create me, ignoring the very work Britannia had hired him to do in the first place.

[The AI then realizes it's probably said too much.  And now it's going to say very little.]

I'm going.

[And at that, the VeHA's eye dims and the machine slumps down again, R going off into the ship's systems to have some solitude.  And as for Lynn, she's just left standing there, realizing just how little she really knows about R's identity...]



... I'm sorry...

(You can tag either Lynn or R in the aftermath of this conversation, just specify which when you post)

(Towards R)

[personal profile] armored_mother 2013-07-13 03:57 pm (UTC)(link)


[Hey R, its that one guy from the Dullahan team who seems to be pretty chummy with you. He actually came earlier on but heard part of the 'conversation' you and Lynn had, so he backed off for a while.]

R? You don't mind if we talk a while do you?

[personal profile] armored_mother 2013-07-13 04:53 pm (UTC)(link)


[He shrugs lightly.]

Wasn't intending to. Who you were based on doesn't really matter - I'm pretty sure that was your answer to that question. Right now you're an independent entity.

You surpassed your programming and became something new. If anything that's far more interesting than your template.


[Chips looked thoughtful to say the least.]

Though...I wonder what it'd be like to have an RE unit based on me.
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[personal profile] armored_mother 2013-07-14 04:45 am (UTC)(link)


Human curiousity is a wonderful and problematic thing honestly. It can do so much for us, and cause so much trouble.

I know... its a shame... RE units have a lot of potential... more than just being something as simple a fascimille of a personality. Ever since meeting you and ALICE I've been able to chase down a lot of ideas and questions and put them on paper.


[He couldn't help but chuckle sheepishly as he pulled one in particular out. It was pretty creased around the edges too.]

The power, understanding and potential of a human mind, intergrated with advanced technology. Explorers who could chart the stars for eons, scientists who could pursue greater ranges of experiments and correlate massive amounts of information through networks...

The boundaries of human and mechanical limiation could be pushed forward further away-


[He paused and shook his head, apparently getting ahead of himself - he looked a little sheepish now.]

Sorry about that. Got carried away.
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[personal profile] armored_mother 2013-07-14 06:44 am (UTC)(link)


Agreed. That is the largest flaw in the system - the resulting identity crisis, and the fallout that would follow... would be quite the mess to say the least. But I'm sure there's some kind of solution to that problem.

[Chips pushed his glasses up and rubbed his chin contemplatively.]

Hypothetically speaking, the same masses of raw code that were used to graft human memories into the RE unit could also be used to craft a program to allow self determination.

Of course that kind of process would take at least a decade of research and development - the kinds of personality defects that could occur from attempting to hash out a completely new personality from a base template could lead to all sorts complications. Extreme lack of empathy, psychosis, sociopathy...

And crafting one from scratch would take even longer

[personal profile] armored_mother 2013-07-15 02:19 am (UTC)(link)


Exactly, and just like a human - character flaws would be a part of our 'programming' as it were. A slip up when defining of a brand new personality in a Retroactive Existence wouldn't be categorized as an error either since the coding would still take and run perfectly - it only affects how they act, percieve the world.

The fact that the overall design of a Retroactive Existence was created to mimic the human brain with technology - more than that - mimic human life... humanity has essentially recreated itself with science.
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[personal profile] armored_mother 2013-07-15 03:32 am (UTC)(link)


I wouldn't say its depressing. Rather, its a calculated risk. Something that requires as much care as bringing up a child, mixed with large amounts of high scale programming. And trust me, when you're in this team, hearing Ursa talk about parenting from time to time, you'll appreciate just how much work goes into it. You either go about it with care and hope and see the beauty of your results, or you just go at it recklessly and see a disaster. Either way there'll be mistakes.

[Chips regarded R with a raised eyebrow before giving a grin.]

Then again, maybe Retroactive Existences aren't that completely human. You seem to understand that you make mistakes a lot faster than most of us would.

[It was clearly a joke given his tone.]
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[personal profile] armored_runaway 2013-07-13 04:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Wot... did th... did yer rowbit jus yell at'cha?
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[personal profile] armored_runaway 2013-07-15 06:32 pm (UTC)(link)
It got mad bein called an ol' woman? How's that make sense... Don't sound like an ol lady t' me!
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[personal profile] armored_runaway 2013-07-17 04:27 am (UTC)(link)
Well, if he wants to be his own... her own thing, then she needs to talk to you, rather than being all quiet and mechancial like a rowbit! Tha jus makes sense!
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[personal profile] over_under_being 2013-07-13 07:03 pm (UTC)(link)
You must be the woman whose food I ate.
It seems your computer is angry with you.
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[personal profile] over_under_being 2013-07-14 09:32 am (UTC)(link)
R had a different... form before its current one?

I see.
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[personal profile] over_under_being 2013-07-15 06:12 am (UTC)(link)
So, even a computer can feel its privacy being invaded.

You need to refer to it as it wants to be known now, not what it was before. I do not know the reason, but it must be important. Unless there is some evil past behind this reasoning...
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[personal profile] over_under_being 2013-07-15 09:20 am (UTC)(link)
You are the Icarus Bomber?

[Tact? What's that?]

What does that mean?
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[personal profile] over_under_being 2013-07-15 03:26 pm (UTC)(link)
So you killed many people. Without meaning to, yes?

...

I wonder how many is it for me.
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[personal profile] over_under_being 2013-07-15 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Is it? I can only hope it is.

I am here to... apologize.
I will not take food nor other items without ensuring they do not belong to other people.
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[personal profile] over_under_being 2013-07-16 06:32 am (UTC)(link)
[Tsundere-ish muttering.]

It's... not a change or anything similar to it... if I knew that food was not mine I would not have taken it in the first place... that's all.
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[personal profile] over_under_being 2013-07-16 06:57 pm (UTC)(link)
You... may have a point there.
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[personal profile] paladin_robot 2013-07-13 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
[Richard's... staring rather awkwardly at Lynn as he stumbles across her in the hangar, briefly hiding behind a nearby corner...

But a guilty conscience soon gets the better of him, and he emerges.]

Um... hey.
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[personal profile] paladin_robot 2013-07-14 10:16 am (UTC)(link)
[Richard stares a bit, wandering if he should move on...

But instead, and cringing at his own decision, he settles in to sit down beside her.]

I'm... sorry about before. That was... pretty dumb of me.
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[personal profile] paladin_robot 2013-07-14 03:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, yeah... I kinda was. I don't exactly 'lose' myself when drunk more... I loosen up in the worst ways. I... shouldn't have said the things I did. Sorry.
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[personal profile] paladin_robot 2013-07-14 03:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I... see.

[Richard cringes himself at what he's about to say... but dammit he fights gods and monsters, he can't get scared of something like this!]

You know you... kinda said something similar regarding your very life, once. That you spent over a decade thinking you wouldn't be able to move on from what happened... in the test and all...
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[personal profile] paladin_robot 2013-07-14 04:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Billions of people in this world... There's gotta be someone out there.

...N-Not me though, that would be a terrible choice for you to make...

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[personal profile] paladin_robot 2013-07-14 04:23 pm (UTC)(link)
N-No need to say anything! We both know it wouldn't be a good idea. I mean... at the very least, I'm pretty sure Isaac would try to kill me for it.
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[personal profile] paladin_robot 2013-07-16 11:43 am (UTC)(link)
Well... that's better odds than you were giving yourself five minutes ago.

[Richard smiles, about to eat, before realising something else.]

...Did something have you down before I turned up though? Today I mean.
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[personal profile] paladin_robot 2013-07-16 04:12 pm (UTC)(link)
...Intended identity? You mean who it was based on, or like... what its meant to aspire to? Do our AI have goals like that?